Magickal Seduction FAQ

Seduce

Q: What’s this book about?

A: Magickal Seduction is all about finding new lovers, making people attracted to you, and getting everything from casual sex to a new relationship.

Q: Is it fair to mess with somebody’s free will like that?

Seduction magick is mot about tricking people, as the book makes clear. If you don’t like the idea of seduction magick, then don’t use it. But you need to be aware that when we do anything other than stay locked up at home, we influence others and affect them, and disturb what is merely an illusion of free will. The world is a swarming chaos of interaction, and you constantly disturb the free will of others, without magick.

If you ‘seduce’ somebody in the traditional way, by dressing well, being interesting and charming and kind, then you are are definitely meddling with free will. It’s just a mater of perspective. The book makes it very clear that kindness is a key component of true seduction, and that the magick only works to reveal the bet version of yourself to somebody. It is not coercion or deception. Although such magick exists, that’s not what this is, and I openly say that if there’s no initial attraction, you can’t ‘drug’ somebody into liking you with this magick. So it can tip the scales, remove fears and ease a situation into being, but that’s a long, long way from bewitching somebody who doesn’t actually want to be near you. Is it manipulation? It may be, but no more than witty conversation is manipulation.

Q: What if the seduction magick doesn’t work straight away?

A: The best way to get seduction magick to work is to avoid desperation. Make sure you are often out in good social situations, and be attractive without a trace of being needy or trying to seduce. If you meet people as though you only want to meet friends, the magick has much more chance of working. Be the kindest, warmest and most genuine you can be – without fawning or trying to impress – and you will seduce far more effectively than if you try to psychically control people. Seduction is an act of generosity and sharing. The book is working well for a lot of people, so if you follow this advice it should work for you.

Q: Is there ever feedback from the seduction magick? Might I fall in love with a ‘target’?

A: Yes. In short, be careful with this magick, because when you seduce the magick can work just as effectively on you.

Q: Will this work on a person I hardly ever see, or a person who lives on the other side of the country.

A: It can, but the odds are greatly reduced.

Q: Can I use Ritual 1 and 3 at the same time?

A: Yes. Many people use Ritual 3 to create general attraction, and then when things are going well, they use Ritual 1 on somebody specific.

Q: Can the seduction book attract a soulmate?

A: It can, but that’s not it’s primary purpose. For that, see The Angels of Love.

Q: I performed the seduction magick for one person, but other people started taking an interest in me. Coincidence?

A: This is an often-reported side-effect of the magick.

Q: If I use a photograph, do I have to dispose of it along with the sigil?

A: If you printed a photograph out especially for the ritual, then you should dispose of it along with the sigil. If it’s a photograph that you already own, you can simply return it to the place you usually keep it.

Q: The book invites spirits to feed on my sexual energy. Will they feed off me forever and leave me drained?

A: The offering refers to the initial feelings that you’re focussed on in the ritual – and even in a great, lustful relationship, feelings change after a few days or weeks. And then, the flavour of that energy changes and is no longer on offer. It is thus safe, and it’s worth noting that what’s offered is not a vampiric pact; you’re not being drained of energy. You’re giving the tiniest gift which will not be noticed by you, but will be greatly appreciated by the spirits.

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Please read the FAQs all the way through before asking your question. It will take a while for your comment to be moderated and to appear on the site, and replies may take even longer. All questions (from late 2016 onward) are being answered by Adam Blackthorne as Damon Brand has moved on from here. If your question is too far off topic, too theoretical or too crazy, rude or weird, we may not publish it! This is just to make life easier for us. Always read the FAQs first!

81 thoughts on “Magickal Seduction FAQ

    1. “some weeks” is as accurate as it gets – I guess the book has an approximation because it can only be approx. Why not try it and see?

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  1. Sorry for more questions coming from me. For the first ritual, I am torn between deciding doing it on new moon or full moon. The thing is that the guy whom I am interested in, is in a relationship now, even though he confessed he likes me some time ago. We meet up sometimes and message each other on a weekly basics as friends. There is already some warmth and friendship between the two of us but now it is not close to passion. I am trying to ignite his passion for me and then do the second ritual. My guess is doing it on new moon would be the best for my situation?

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  2. Hi, I am a fan of all your books and I have finished a few rituals, even though my first encounter was only 2 months ago. Question regarding the ritual ‘Igniting Passion in Another’-would it work if the other person I am trying to attract could be a virgin (I am not)? Second question is does it work on same gender for all the rituals in the book? Third question is what happen if the person I am trying to attract is in a relationship and I perform ritual 1 and 2 on him?

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    1. Yes it works if the other person is a virgin and gender makes no difference so long as that person is open to that kind of relationship in the first place. Final question – it depends. It can work, which might be great or might be a big load of trouble for you – and sometimes it can work, but not enough to actually cause action. The emotions can certainly be jangled, but if the relationship is stable it will have little effect.

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  3. Hi, just purchased the book. Very good though i’m a bit concerned about where you say to the spirits ‘and you may feed on the energy and ecstacy of our sex to your delight’.

    Are you essentially agreeing to let the spirits harvest energy from you and use you as an energy resovoir? And if so is there any sort of limit to how much energy they can take from you?

    Lets say you and someone you use the magick on fall in love and spend 15-20 years together these spirits will essentially use you as an energy source for all that time?

    Can you safely omit that statement?

    Thanks

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    1. Hello. You can omit it, but you’re taking the energy out of the ritual and results won’t be as good. The rituals are self-limiting, though – if you were to offer a lifetime of energy, that would need to be an explicit statement. No spirit is going to take from you forever from such a small ritual. Also, a safeguard, the ritual and the offering refers to the initial feelings that you’re focussed on in the ritual – they won’t last. Feelings change. Even in a great, lustful relationship, the feelings change after a few days or weeks. And then, the flavour of that energy changes and is no loner on offer. So it’s safe, and even what’s offered is not a vampiric pact; you’re not being drained and left empty. You’re giving the tiniest gift. Spirits can be satisfied with the crappiest of offerings – bits of bread, leaves, spit, that sort of thing, so a tiny moment of actual enjoyment is like ambrosia.

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  4. Hello,
    I am posting this here but am also referring to other works/rituals.

    When it comes to love and relationship, figuring out “what you want”is a process. So I am unsure how to apply the fact that Damon (rightfully) says that you mustn’t be using magick just to experiment or what have you. Particularly with love you must know what you want. I’m still in the process of figuring out exactly how to sculpt various targeted rituals for desires I have. But as I said when it comes to love – at this point in my life there’s a genuine desire within me to get to know some of the people on my radar better. Be attractive to them, hold their concentration, and yes gain insight inward regarding my own feelings and desires. I’ve really been trying to find the right way to do this very simple thing- build communication and friendship with another. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Most of all I don’t want to make myself vulnerable to a psychic connection with another due to magick which makes me feel suffering or lack. I want to stay empowered and certainly want to see my results but with a detached attitude of observing my relationships- I think this is the right way to determine a promising lifelong partner. But in the past my use of magick has made me feel quite out of control of my emotions due to lust and emotional investment. Thank you.

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    1. Oh yeah, I get that. It helps to be certain but how often am I really certain? Not sure…

      If you have Zanna’s book, The Angels of Love, you know it might comes across as a bit New Age (sorry Zanna), but the magick is hardcore and it works – and she puts in all this background practical stuff which is not ultra-new, but it works. So even if you’re not looking for a soulmate that book really opens things up and then there’s this seduction book when you need it!

      Psychich attack of the deliberate kind is less common than the draining and bullying that comes with many relationships. Magickal Protection keeps you safe without taking you off the radar (you don’t want to become invisible to people). The 72 Sigils is a good one to work with to help you keep a sense of self. Or The Angels of Alchemy. You don’t need all this…. just offering choices.

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      1. Thanks for your reply Adam! Do these rituals encompass aspects of attractiveness beyond just physicality as chemistry? not sure how to explain but.. just wondering if this helps a person resonate with charm in general- personality quirks, flaws and all- almost that the true self worthy of love/desire in another shines through? I feel the rituals seem very sex-heavy. Trying to figure out if that attraction runs deeper than just lust and bodily desires, but to the heart… also is there a frequency advisable for these? Is it sort of chaos magick to express to the spirits deeper desires of emotional passion in the ritual? Nothing about meaningless sex is attractive to me.

        I don’t have Zanna’s love book yet. Have most others and keep hearing that the angels are the same across books but will check it out. Thank you!

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        1. Sex-heavy, yeah, but that may be because when you fall in love that’s often a pretty sex-heavy feeling. For me it is. Ahem! Anyway, yeah, these rituals can be really deep. They’re used for meaningless sex, but some use them for much deeper things – that’s the thing with magick; it will tune up to what you feed into it. But you might want to hold out for Zanna’s book. Somebody posted a story about that on the success stories page just now, while I was replying to these questions – inspirational!!!

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          1. Cool – thank you 🙂
            I think I’m going to go more with inner alchemy and see where that takes me but I do like Zanna’s style, I see it as very healing so I will check it out!!

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  5. I only want new sexual partners (young ladies ready and willing to offer me their body regularly and consistently)

    what rituals can I use for this.

    I have tried ritual 3 before, got synchronities but nothing came out of it I.e. no sex nor quality companionship

    help me

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    1. As the books says, this isn’t really about trying to get people to offer their bodies.

      To quote. “True seduction is the art of attracting the people who will please you the most, sexually and emotionally. At its best, seduction is also a gift to the one you seduce, because you are the one that will please them the most, sexually and emotionally.”

      As such, people are highly unlikely to just offer themselves up.

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      1. OK, I understand.

        So how do I attract regular lovers but I do not have anyone in my mind to attract.

        I want new lovers generally so what should I do.

        Thank you for your updated reply.

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        1. Ritual 3 creates a general air of attraction, and that can be enough, although you can also use Ritual 1 when you meet a specific person. But many people find ritual 3 works well, so long as you also put in the required real-world effort as described in the book.

          Please note that comments take a few hours, or days, to appear, so please don’t repost. I’ve just deleted duplicates of this message that were posted here and on another page. Thanks.

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  6. Hello. I read your book magickal seduction. .and want to do ritual 2 on a specific person.
    Do I need pyrite and the other things as in ritual 1?
    Also can I do this in the morning?
    Thank you in advance for your time.

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  7. Mr. Brandon,

    When a personal object is needed to perform a ritual. Will an envelope of a gift card from that person work?

    Thank you for sharing all this knowledge with us!

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  8. My apologies if I am duplicating the question. I am new to the site.

    Mr. Brand,

    To create attraction, it is suggested to have a personal item of the person. Will a coffee gift card, well I should say the envelope of the gift card will work?

    Thank you in advance for your response.
    Your magick it’s revolutionary!
    Regards,

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  9. Mr. Brand,

    For the attraction ritual, I need to have a personal item of the person; the only item that I currently have is a coffee gift card from him, will this work?

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    1. Well, as the book says, the more personal the better, but anything personal, that has been in that person’s possession, can help. This is only an adjunct to the magick, and is generally not essential.

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  10. Hi Damon,

    I have noticed that the 2nd ritual has many elements of the ritual of the 72 shemhamphorash angels.
    Can I incorporate elements of this(extended clalling of Raziel, singing, lightning bolt etc) to this second ritual?
    Will this increase the effectiveness of this ritual?
    Thanks.

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    1. If you’re familiar with those practices, then yes you can. It can be kept simple, and still works, but if you like working with those elements, they can help. They don’t necessarily make it stronger, however, or they would have been included in this text. Everything is kept as simply as workably possible, so this is absolutely optional.

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  11. Hi Damon
    I have done ritual 2 messed up a bit with the pronunciation but since I have done this ritual he seems to be further away than before and I am feeling very emotional
    I know in your book you said that one may experience strong feelings as well – is the fact that he seems further away mean that the magic has had a reverse effect
    should I retry the whole ritual again
    Thanks

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    1. You can retry, but it may be better to be relaxed about this. Please see all the posts on this site about lust for result – letting go of urgent need makes the results come more readily.

      Pronunciation won’t matter enough to cause it to go wrong. Sometimes, emotional magick can cause the target to recoil at first – sensing what is overwhelming forces the defences to go up. They usually go down if you give the magick room to work. Feel free to repeat if you want, but a confident approach is better than worrying too much about the details.

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  12. Hi Damon I have a quick question for you. If I have a certain person thinking about in my head all and wish to fall in love with that person BUT don’t know their NAME. As I remember in this book in one of the rituals that performing the ritual I have to say their name. What if I don’t know that person’s name? Can I think about em in head? Love to hear back.

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  13. Hi Damon,
    I very casually performed ritual #3, but only visualized a couple of real people. One of them seems to be affected. He is very timid around me. Did I accidentally turn ritual #3 into ritual #1, although I haven’t used the name? It appears that the guy completely loses his free will when around me. I don’t think he will ever make a move if he remains like that. The weirdest thing that it started happening weeks before I even decided that I will do the ritual #3. Why is my magick always so strong, it’s over the top? I do it casually and not perfect either..

    Thank you.

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    1. Magick is rarely an exact science, and this kind of magick can have a lot of spillage – as I mention in the book, it can often make your feelings stronger than you intended. Often the best solution is a mundane one – a frank talk with the person. Even feelings that have been uncovered by magick can be released by an ordinary conversation that makes it clear you’re not interested. (Assuming you’re not.) The magick is strong, but not this strong for everybody. Magick working before the ritual even takes place is quite common, and indeed it seems to be happening more often, now that our magick has been out in the world for some time. It’s strange, but it’s a real phenomenon.

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      1. Thank you, Damon, for your prompt reply and your guidance, as always. It gives me better understanding and direction on how to proceed now and in the future.

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  14. Hi Damon, I was wondering if it is absolutely essential to bury the materials after the ritual is over in ritual 1. I live in an area where it would be really hard for me to do so. Is it ok to just throw the left over materials away? Or maybe keep it stored away in a safe place (like in a closet or under the mattress or something)? Thank you!

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    1. These answers are from the general FAQ:

      Q: What do I do with printed sigils or talismans once I’ve finished using them? Do they have to be buried at a crossroads or can I throw them in the trash?

      A: Sometimes there are specific instructions on getting rid of a sigil, such a burning or burial, but if this is impractical (if you can’t find a discreet crossroad, for example) you can simply dispose of them and no harm will come to you or your magick. There is a key to this – stop thinking of them as magickal and then simply dispose of them. For angelic sigils, however, many people like to store them and reuse them. If you feel an urge to keep a talisman or sigil that is fine, unless the book specifically says that it should be destroyed.

      Q: I used the sigils in the book (or the ebook) so how do I destroy them?

      A: Stop thinking of them as magickal, stop using them, and leave them where they are.

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      1. Thank you very much for the reply Damon. I love the fact that you actually interact with your readers and help us out with any questions we may have.

        BTW, I’ve been doing the Master Protection Ritual and Sword Banishing from your Magickal Protection book. I was having a run of bad luck in my life before this but after only 2 weeks everything seems to have turned around.

        Thanks again for your help. You guys are the real deal. It’s the first new magickal system I’ve seen in awhile that ACTUALLY WORKS! I look forward with working with your other rituals and whatever new books you may publish in the future.

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  15. Can you do ritual 2 on any day and time of day, or is there a special time like in ritual 1, i.e 5 days before a full moon? Also is there a good day to start ritual 3?

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  16. Hello Damon,

    I’ve successfully been reunited with my boyfriend after almost a year of no contact.
    I used several angels to help reunite us, then used Ritual 1 and now I’ll be doing Ritual 2 for the 3rd time. I’ve only decided to use Ritual 2 twice now since the first time I used it we were still apart and I didn’t see him for many months, therefore I did it again once we were back together. I am doing Ritual 2 again since this time I have some of his beard hairs which strangely enough he handed me.

    The only catch is he is currently married.
    I do expect love from Ritual 2, however, is it possible that he will love 2 people at the same time?
    Is there another way to ensure that Ritual 2 is backed up with a commitment to me?
    Or will he just feel feelings of love and thats all?

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    1. When you want it to stop working, it loses its fire. Of course, if somebody has become genuinely attracted to you in the meantime, that can’t be reversed, because it’s no longer caused by magick.

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  17. Hello Damon

    In your book, you write that we are able to see a visualization of the rosy light on your images-page. I cannot see it there, but would very much like to see it. Can you upload it there? 🙂

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    1. Did you buy your book directly through Amazon? That link/reference was removed from the book a long time ago. (There are unauthorized versions of the ebook available elsewhere online, and some contain errors, including reference to that image).

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        1. OK, that sounds like a genuine copy, so you will have the right info. The image in question was removed because colours render so differently on different devices – ultimately I was not sure it worked. However, I can look into having it put back up there.

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          1. Alright, that sounds good. Thank you. One more question – if I want to seduce an ex-girlfriend I recently ran into – should I do the first or second ritual? I mean, she used to be attracted to me and probably still is. It’s only been six months since we dated.

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  18. Hello Sir,

    I’m going to be performing ritual 1 for the first time in a few days, and I have some questions

    – at the end of the 5th day, the instructions are to let the candles burn themselves out – this is implied to be optional if otherwise unsafe – and I would like to know if the circle and the pyrite block along with the scrap of paper needs to remain while it burns itself out;

    – in addition, while this process is taking place (the candles burning themselves out) do i have to be positioned in any particular way in relation to the ritual-set-up? i.e. could i leave the ritual space while the candles still burn, assuming they are in a very safe location for being lit?

    – on the final day, if the candles are left to burn themselves out, do I have to wait till they are burnt out before I dispose/bury the required pieces of the set-up?

    – is there any way in which the candles should be arranged, ideally?

    thank you for your time; I just want to make sure I don’t mess up the ending somehow

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    1. The candles are very optional. Some people work this with imagined light alone, and it works. If you do leave them burning, the paper and pyrite do not need to remain.

      The candles should not be abandoned, and not just for obvious safety reasons, but to keep them in your peripheral consciousness.

      No need to wait. One candle either side is fine.

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      1. Thank you very much, Sir. 🙂

        I’ll blow them out on the 5th day, then! My candles will take hours to burn out and it would not make sense to observe them for that duration until they burn themselves out.

        Appreciate the repy!

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      2. I only have 1 white candle presently. Will that make a difference because you said red candles. Do I have to use candles or can I do the rituals to attract or seduce without candles? I have pyrite.

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        1. As Damon said above – “The candles are very optional. Some people work this with imagined light alone, and it works.” Cheers, Adam B.

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  19. I know you review the initial comment b4 it posts, so wanted to ask privately if we could move to an email format? Possibly you have a generic email you wouldn’t mind sharing?

    Could we briefly pick this up at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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    1. I’m afraid not. Please see this answer from the main FAQ for an explanation.

      Q: How can I contact the authors directly?

      A: You can post on the Facebook page, or post on the FAQ pages on this site. If you wish to remain anonymous you can use any name you like to post anonymously – hit the Change button in the Comment box if your real name or identity is showing up. If you have a private question, simply change the identifying details in the question and post anonymously and your question will be answered. If you want to send a completely private message, write NOT FOR PUBLIC in the heading and it will be read, but will never be posted. We cannot reply to private messages due to time pressure. When private messages were open, it was normal for more than forty questions a day to arrive, and replying to them took up many hours. As such, a public form such as this is the best way to address questions.

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  20. My wife has bisexual desires that arise when we have sex, take a trip to the beach, or generally are in a relaxed “life-context” (i.e., she can get away from work and relax). I emphasize this first to let you know that my desire for her is not something entirely forced upon her as she genuinely has these desires in certain situations.

    I desire to use ritual one on her behalf. My intention is that she will be inflamed with lust for girls in general. It would be great if this manifested in a sexual relationship with another girl, but realistically could be manifested simply in masturbation thinking about other girls, watching porn, etc… The end-goal will be if this information is shared with me, and our personal sex life is heightened and intensified by her newly found freedom, experimentation and increased desire in this area.

    My question to you is if this intent is within the scope of ritual one, or would some other type of magick be better implemented for this intent?

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    1. All rituals can be adapted, but the aim of this ritual is to increase attraction to you, not others. What you’re suggesting sounds more like influence magick, which is another area entirely, and one we haven’t really covered at this point.

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      1. Thank you for the comment. So, is it safe to conclude that while influence magick may better cover this topic, it is still advisable to experiment with ritual one as I have suggested? In essence, do you think this experiment might work, or would you go ahead and look for something else in the influence magick area straight away?

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        1. If it were me, I would take the mundane path of talking about it directly. Sexual experimentation requires so much trust that any form of coercion within a relationship, especially when empowered by magick, could lead to explosive and unexpected emotions. This is not a moral judgment, but a practicality.

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          1. Okay, Mr. Damon Brand; please allow me to expand. A few weeks before I met my wife, I explored invocation of a succubus. The ritual was something entirely intuitive, quite basic, and even without words. In my mind I thought that nothing had been accomplished as i was merely experimenting, and was honestly a wee bit afraid. I didn’t even use words, and this was also my first foray into magick.

            Several weeks later, I meet the girl who is now my wife. She was (and is) stunning! Our relationship quickly blossomed into a WILD sexual ride that very quickly graduated to threesomes, various fetishes and finally one-on-one sexual encounters with her and other females. This continued for about two years, and then it dissipated.

            In retrospect, I have no doubt that this was the manifestation of a succubus, although it was not an ethereal-material manifestation as I had naively wished for.

            I guess I am seeking to open this door again, and through a powerful synchronicity with another witch, have seemingly been led to your book as outward signs in multiple ways are pointing to this. That is why I am further questioning you on this issue.

            I realize that were this intent to be focused upon someone I know not, it is very unlikely to be effective. The fact that this person is my beloved increases the likelihood of manifestation, but if she did not also have an open door of our prior history, one might still think this would not work. But given the historical details I have outlined, I believe the probability that this magick would work is greatly increased.

            So, I state all of this to explain that we have already mundanely talked about this, and have also experienced magickal workings between us (she does not know it was a magickal working).

            Now that I have provided more information, do you find it advisable to explore ritual one experimentation? If not, can you make a recommendation for a best resource to learn influence magick?

            Thank you very much for your dialogue! I have only read your one book, but will shortly order them all. I also LOVE the concept GALLERY OF MAGICK. It resonates within, friend.

            Astral Walker

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            1. Thank you for your kind comments.

              It sounds as though you are trying to put more energy or attraction into the relationship, to get back to the energy levels and intensity that was there at the beginning. As such, yes, you could use the attraction ritual, in order to increase the passion felt for you – in the hope this would lead to more exploration.

              There are many powers in The 72 Angels of Magick, such as To Create Passionate Sex, which might be more useful. It’s worth noting, as well, that the listed powers are only a starting point, and once you get a feel for what each angel can do, there is potential to ask for way more than is listed.

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              1. Thank you for the recommendation, Damon. I am ordering all of your books today.

                What you surmised is correct, but it is not really attraction to me that is warranted; rather, it is an openness and interest in girls that is the objective. There is some relationship between the two ideas, but she already has an interest in me without the latter (although in the past both existed). I want to stir the desire towards girls again.

                I will modify ritual one so the intention is unto this end; not towards me. I will believe, bring up the feeling that this has been done as that is easy to do based on my prior experience (i.e., alter the past), and forget about it. When future results come, will post a follow-up to this thread.

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  21. a final question

    in a part of the first ritual he says Visualize an orange-rosy light before you

    and then says Picture the person you want to be with the rosy light inside

    These are 2 different colors of light or is the same light orange-rosy color,

    Thank you

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  22. Hello

    I have a question, if I extended the duration of rituals, for example the first ritual I do it for 15 days or more and the second for 30 days for example, there is a problem with it, I would not lust for the result, I am currently doing a ritual for separation on the same day that the seduction (passion) and I get used to make 2 rituals on the same day

    If you could, I change the sigil or I can maintain throughout the ritual, even for more days than recommended

    Sorry for my English is not my native language

    Thank you

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    1. There is no harm in extending the ritual if it is being done with calm confidence, rather than out of fear that it won’t work. But it might be worth considering that the ritual does work when performed for a short time, so one way to show that you are not desperate is to stop and know that the magick will work. With that said, if you simply like doing the magick and get something out of continuing, you can repeat and extend the ritual, so long as you are not trying to force it to work by doing more magick.

      This might also be relevant: https://galleryofmagick.com/2015/07/03/a-rush-of-occult-power/

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  23. Hello

    In the first ritual when you say

    Speak directly to these spirits of lust, with authority, while picturing your target. Repeat these spirit names over and over.

    I repeat the names of the 6 spirits that have been called in whole or only the last 3 who called

    Thank you

    Ariel

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  24. Can ritual 2 be performed on more than one person. So if for example it doesn’t work out with one, you ,any be in love but it is difficult. Can you perform it on the next person you meet and feel a connection with? I know you should be careful with this ritual and I don’t want to abuse it that’s why I ask

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    1. Yes. If everything has moved on, there is no harm in repeating. Relationships don’t always work out, and so long as this isn’t being used in an unkind or casual way, it is fine to repeat when you know you’ve moved on.

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  25. (I didn’t see this comment box last time and posted my question in the Angels of Love section, where it was answered; thank you for the answer.)

    My follow-up to the question of increasing _specificity_ in the seduction rite:

    It seems reasonable that the more specific we make the request,
    possibly, the longer it might take for the spirits to bring us the result.

    Is it better to approach specificity in the first rite where instead of naming a person, we name a theoretical person?

    Or it is better advised to approach the situation via the third rite,
    where we make ourselves attractive to such a person?

    Magicians should experiment themselves I believe,
    but I am convinced your Coven must have looked at such questions.
    What did you find, if you feel it worthwhile to share?

    Thank you again.

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      1. I am wondering, if one could summarise a description of an idealised girl and then assign this idealised girl a name and use this name in the rite.

        What if any opinion does your order have on this approach?
        I.e. the name I choose in my mind in a fashion similar to the selection of a servitor.
        Then, the 6 spirits work toward the realisation of these criteria encapsulated in the name i have assigned.

        Does this go beyond the structure of the rite as it was intended?
        thank you in advance.

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      2. To clarify my previous comment:

        thus when I open the ritual, I have a sheet of paper upon which I write the qualities and descriptions,
        and then I say to the spirits,
        I call this idealised girl, So and so.
        And following this, use this name in the rite.

        I ask because, my reasoning is that, if the spirits can help with a general seduction, and on the other hand a very specific seduction of a particular person,
        surely they must be capable of meeting somewhere in the middle and finding one meeting certain requirements. In fact, that might be easier in many cases than bringing the specific person?

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        1. You could try this, but it would be very much an experiment. Your theory is correct, but too narrow a remit can limit the chances of success. If you insist on meeting a woman called Julie, with blonde hair, who works in finance, in New York, there might only be one such person. Or none. If you say you want to meet a beautiful woman, there are tens of thousands. So yes, you can combine general attraction with something more specific, but it may not work. However, the approach you suggest sounds like something you’d try in chaos magick. You come up with a name, and you may never meet somebody with that name – but the archetypes behind the name, the feelings, could help shape things. As I say, an experiment, but possibly a good gone.

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          1. Spot on, the name is only to represent the criteria to the spirits,
            who presumably understand what I mean.

            Thank you for your response.

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